Saturday, March 24, 2012

html editor recommendations?

I am/was using FCKeditor to allow users to submit HTML, however I am coming
accross a serious bug which removes all style code blocks when a user
submits html using Firefox 2.0.x .

So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used on a
asp.net 2.0 website (and are free/opensource).

Thanks,

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So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used on
a asp.net 2.0 website (and are free/opensource).


I've never needed anything other than this:
http://freetextbox.com/default.aspx
--
http://www.markrae.net
Hi Mark,

I saw that one. I think maybe my expectations are wrong...

Are these editors capable of editing a full html document with (for example)
a <stylecode block in the header?

When I try pasting a full html document with a header (including a style
block), a body, and a footer, the editors convert the whole lot to a table,
ignoring and deleting the entire style block.

Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format small chunks of
HTML and won't do an entire page?

Thanks in advance,
JJ

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"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message
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>

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>So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used
>on a asp.net 2.0 website (and are free/opensource).


>
I've never needed anything other than this:
http://freetextbox.com/default.aspx
>
>
--
http://www.markrae.net


"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message
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Hi Mark,
>
I saw that one. I think maybe my expectations are wrong...
>
Are these editors capable of editing a full html document with (for
example) a <stylecode block in the header?
>
When I try pasting a full html document with a header (including a style
block), a body, and a footer, the editors convert the whole lot to a
table, ignoring and deleting the entire style block.
>
Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format small chunks
of HTML and won't do an entire page?


Hmm - I'll admit to not having tried to use FreeTextBox to edit an entire
page, but I think if that is what you require, then maybe you need something
like SharePoint...

--
http://www.markrae.net
re:
!Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format
!small chunks of HTML and won't do an entire page?

Exactly. You can't build a whole page with freetextbox *or* FCK.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message news:u6E7NDdrHHA.1848@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

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Hi Mark,
>
I saw that one. I think maybe my expectations are wrong...
>
Are these editors capable of editing a full html document with (for example) a <stylecode block
in the header?
>
When I try pasting a full html document with a header (including a style block), a body, and a
footer, the editors convert the whole lot to a table, ignoring and deleting the entire style
block.
>
Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format small chunks of HTML and won't do an
entire page?
>
Thanks in advance,
JJ
>
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>"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message news:upc0RncrHHA.4828@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>

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Originally Posted by

>>So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used on a asp.net 2.0 website
>>(and are free/opensource).


>>
>I've never needed anything other than this:
>http://freetextbox.com/default.aspx
>>
>>
>--
>http://www.markrae.net


>
>


I do hope there's another solution - its too late to adopt sharepoint in
this case.
Thanks,
JJ

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"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message
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>

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Originally Posted by

>Hi Mark,
>>
>I saw that one. I think maybe my expectations are wrong...
>>
>Are these editors capable of editing a full html document with (for
>example) a <stylecode block in the header?
>>
>When I try pasting a full html document with a header (including a style
>block), a body, and a footer, the editors convert the whole lot to a
>table, ignoring and deleting the entire style block.
>>
>Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format small chunks
>of HTML and won't do an entire page?


>
Hmm - I'll admit to not having tried to use FreeTextBox to edit an entire
page, but I think if that is what you require, then maybe you need
something like SharePoint...
>
>
--
http://www.markrae.net


Actually it does work ok with FCK - but only in IE. Firefox somehow acts
completely differently.
Do you know of any editors that will do the header section as well in both
browsers?

JJ

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re:
!Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format
!small chunks of HTML and won't do an entire page?
>
Exactly. You can't build a whole page with freetextbox *or* FCK.
>
>
>
>
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message
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>Hi Mark,
>>
>I saw that one. I think maybe my expectations are wrong...
>>
>Are these editors capable of editing a full html document with (for
>example) a <stylecode block in the header?
>>
>When I try pasting a full html document with a header (including a style
>block), a body, and a footer, the editors convert the whole lot to a
>table, ignoring and deleting the entire style block.
>>
>Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format small chunks
>of HTML and won't do an entire page?
>>
>Thanks in advance,
>JJ
>>
>"Mark Rae" <mark@.markNOSPAMrae.netwrote in message
>news:u74yu3crHHA.5032@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

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>>"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message
>>news:upc0RncrHHA.4828@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used
>>>on a asp.net 2.0 website (and are free/opensource).
>>>
>>I've never needed anything other than this:
>>http://freetextbox.com/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>http://www.markrae.net


>>
>>


>
>


re:
!Actually it does work ok with FCK - but only in IE.
!Firefox somehow acts completely differently.

IE is very lenient when it comes to ignoring superfluous html tags.

Think of it this way :

When you use an online editor, what you edit is meant to be embedded in an html page.
If you include double html/head/body tags, would you expect a browser to honor them ?

I wouldn't.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message news:uQKVbEerHHA.1404@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

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Actually it does work ok with FCK - but only in IE. Firefox somehow acts completely differently.
Do you know of any editors that will do the header section as well in both browsers?
>
JJ
>
"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@.nowhere.comwrote in message
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>re:
>!Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format
>!small chunks of HTML and won't do an entire page?
>>
>Exactly. You can't build a whole page with freetextbox *or* FCK.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
>asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
>foros de asp.net, en espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
>======================================
>"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message news:u6E7NDdrHHA.1848@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

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>>Hi Mark,
>>>
>>I saw that one. I think maybe my expectations are wrong...
>>>
>>Are these editors capable of editing a full html document with (for example) a <stylecode
>>block in the header?
>>>
>>When I try pasting a full html document with a header (including a style block), a body, and a
>>footer, the editors convert the whole lot to a table, ignoring and deleting the entire style
>>block.
>>>
>>Is it perhaps that these editors are only designed to format small chunks of HTML and won't do
>>an entire page?
>>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>JJ
>>>
>>"Mark Rae" <mark@.markNOSPAMrae.netwrote in message
>>news:u74yu3crHHA.5032@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message news:upc0RncrHHA.4828@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used on a asp.net 2.0
>>website (and are free/opensource).
>>
>>>I've never needed anything other than this:
>>>http://freetextbox.com/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>http://www.markrae.net
>>>
>>>


>>
>>


>
>


try posting this question in an FCKeditor forum, you may have better luck

"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message news:upc0RncrHHA.4828@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

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Originally Posted by

>I am/was using FCKeditor to allow users to submit HTML, however I am coming accross a serious bug which removes all style code
>blocks when a user submits html using Firefox 2.0.x .
>
So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used on a asp.net 2.0 website (and are free/opensource).
>
Thanks,
>
JJ
>


Try this one : http://www.obout.com/editor_new/
Stan
That looks like a seriously good component. It worked with full page html in
both IE and Firefox. Its a shame its not a (free) opensource component
though - I guess I can't have it all can I...(!)
JJ
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Try this one : http://www.obout.com/editor_new/
>
Stan


Check out Macromedia's HomeSite. I used that way back for HTML coding and
now it has support of .aspx file extensions.
http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/
Mike
'IGotYourDotNet'
http://igotyourdotnet.blogspot.com/
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>I am/was using FCKeditor to allow users to submit HTML, however I am coming
>accross a serious bug which removes all style code blocks when a user
>submits html using Firefox 2.0.x .
>
So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be used on
a asp.net 2.0 website (and are free/opensource).
>
Thanks,
>
JJ
>


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>That looks like a seriously good component. It worked with full page html in
>both IE and Firefox. Its a shame its not a (free) opensource component
>though - I guess I can't have it all can I...(!)


It looks free to me. If it's as good as it looks, why do you need open
source? There's no need to change it.

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>JJ
>"Stan SR" <stan@.pasdepam.netsunset.comwrote in message
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>Try this one : http://www.obout.com/editor_new/
>>
>Stan


>
>


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>"JJ" <abc@.xyz.comwrote in message
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>

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>So, can anyone recommend any other html editors than can easily be
>>used on a asp.net 2.0 website (and are free/opensource).


>
>I've never needed anything other than this:
>http://freetextbox.com/default.aspx


Depends what you want. I regularly get "script unresponsive" errors with
FTB, not to mention the appalling rubbish HTML that it generates. Add to
that the complete lack of any decent documentation and no support and,
well, I guess there's little to recommend it!

Just my 2c. I am in no way affiliated with FTB, just a frustrated
developer who has wasted too much time trying to get it work.

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Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
Hi Alan,

I'd presumed the downloads were somehow time limited as the costs are listed
next to each component (including the html editor).
Does it say it is free to use somewhere?

Thanks,

JJ

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Originally Posted by

>>That looks like a seriously good component. It worked with full page html
>>in
>>both IE and Firefox. Its a shame its not a (free) opensource component
>>though - I guess I can't have it all can I...(!)


>
It looks free to me. If it's as good as it looks, why do you need open
source? There's no need to change it.
>

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>>JJ
>>"Stan SR" <stan@.pasdepam.netsunset.comwrote in message
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>>Try this one : http://www.obout.com/editor_new/
>>>
>>Stan


>>
>>


>
--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)


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writes

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>Hi Alan,
>
>I'd presumed the downloads were somehow time limited as the costs are listed
>next to each component (including the html editor).
>Does it say it is free to use somewhere?


My mistake. I looked at the info about the components, and couldn't see
anything about pricing. The download page didn't mention it either, so I
naively assumed it was free! I hadn't seen a pricing page anywhere.
Looking again I spotted one linked from the "quick links" at the top
right.

Shame, it looked like a good component.

So, I'm also looking for a decent (X)HTML editor for ASP.NET. None of
the free or cheap ones I've seen so far produce anything like decent
(X)HTML, they all produce outdated junk.

If you find anything, please post back.

--
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
LOXWel Hey, there is what you need.
LOXWel Hey, there is what you need.

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